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Deathroller & Big Guys

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TrickyD

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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 12:53 pm

Evilstein wrote:No, because there is no link betweens the 2 rules.

:roll: Really?
Wasn't the 2 ST5 BGs per team rule not implemented because you complained about the DR, which is a Secret Weapon?
And instead of actually solving the 'DR problem' Cyanide came with this 2 ST5 BGs per team 'solution'.
I'd say there definately is a connection.

8-) But I guess you find it all convenient because you've have always advocated that there were too many ST5 players in certain teams.
I guess the Jade College really has gotten the shaft with all the 'balancing' of DB; only 2 ST5 BGs per team ( still no 2 Trolls + a Fanatic) and Secret Weapons got nerfed in the process.
Yep, now DB is truly 'balanced'.
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 1:19 pm

The DR is very stronger as the Bomber or Chainsaw it's for that I think a roll to secret weapons will be applicated but according the secret weapon like rules of BB on LRB3.

For example :
At the end of all turn, or all 4 turns, make a roll of 2D6 for secret weapons :

DR : 8+
Chainsaw : 6+
Bomber : 5+
Fanatic : 4+

If you do under the plyer go out of the dungeon or use a bribe to RR.
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 2:03 pm

Really? Wasn't the 2 ST5 BGs per team rule not implemented because you complained about the DR, which is a Secret Weapon?


Really. Cyanide don't understand too.

They made a 2 looner limitation per team, right ? It's not me, it is from the start. BUT, they don't think about the "no- looner Big Guys", that's why I complained about it.

It's clear. DR is a problem (who can be solve by the secret weapon skill or by removing him from the game) and there is no link between him and the "Big Guys/Looner/STR 5" limitation.
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 2:04 pm

Tristelune wrote:The DR is very stronger as the Bomber or Chainsaw it's for that I think a roll to secret weapons will be applicated but according the secret weapon like rules of BB on LRB3.
Yes, fine.
It seems to me this Secret Weapon rule would fix the DR 'problem' so can we go back to the original 2 Loners per team rule?
8-) Even in BB a Goblin coach can field his 2 Trolls and a Fanatic so why not in DB also?
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 2:28 pm

Evilstein wrote:
They made a 2 looner limitation per team, right ? It's not me, it is from the start. BUT, they don't think about the "no- looner Big Guys", that's why I complained about it.
:?: So?
Then complain that Cyanide should just reduce the number of BGs to 3 per team.

Wether these BGs have Loner or not should be irrelevant.
Since BB teams are able to have 3 BGs I don't see a reason why this also shouldn't be the case for DB.
And the Jade college should have non-Loner Trolls to choose from (just like the Ogres in the BB Ogre team), as long as the # of BGs is limited to 3.

;) FYI the discussion whether a figure is a BG or not, is still relevant.
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 3:02 pm

When I suggested to replace 2 loners rule to 2 5+ strong rule at members of Cyanide the Jade school don't exist.

No rule is perfect and have 4 big guy in a team, two of which are not loner, seems too many if the other teams can't have more of 2 big guy.

Personally I prefer a rule who limit to four 5+ strong players. Have school with 5+S players are no loner become an advantage and all teams can have four big players.

What is more the futur problem of Momies and tomb gardian is settled.
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 3:51 pm

Tristelune wrote:When I suggested to replace 2 loners rule to 2 5+ strong rule at members of Cyanide the Jade school don't exist.
:arrow: I hope that we can agree that Cyanide should've published all the different colleges 1st before trying to balance the game.
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 4:32 pm

Tristelune wrote:When I suggested to replace 2 loners rule to 2 5+ strong rule at members of Cyanide the Jade school don't exist.

No rule is perfect and have 4 big guy in a team, two of which are not loner, seems too many if the other teams can't have more of 2 big guy.

Personally I prefer a rule who limit to four 5+ strong players. Have school with 5+S players are no loner become an advantage and all teams can have four big players.

What is more the futur problem of Momies and tomb gardian is settled.


so basically you didnt look at the rules at all before playing? the fact that the colleges are all listed in them and Jade has Orcs, Goblins and Trolls which is in theory 4 big guys and a fanatic
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 6:46 pm

katadder wrote:so basically you didnt look at the rules at all before playing? the fact that the colleges are all listed in them and Jade has Orcs, Goblins and Trolls which is in theory 4 big guys and a fanatic


Five big guyz (2 goblin 1 Orque and 2 Troll) :D but if you read rules troll roster doesn't exist ;)
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Re: Deathroller & Big Guys

PostThu Aug 23, 2012 7:37 pm

4 big guys cos the DB rules state max 2 with loner and if there was a troll roster the trolls wouldnt have loner, much like the ogre one.
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